Dozens of countries and states have bans on smoking in your car while transporting minors. Ireland has extended this protection to pregnant women–and I’d say more countries should do the same. Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, and Turkey have gone so far as to ban smoking in your private car any time you’re on a public road. Many more countries are considering a similar ban. But honestly, no one has a good reason for it.

Turkey, cited a “smoke-free air policy” when it made smoking in your car illegal. Authorities can fine you up to 153 Turkish liras ($27) for enjoying a cigarette in your own car. Yet smoking remains very popular in Turkey, as well as the other countries with a ban.

Italy, Latvia, and Lithuania are in the European Union. Turkey borders the EU. Smoking has dramatically decreased in the U.S., but not in the E.U. As recently as 2005, 20.9% of U.S. citizens were daily smokers. That number has since plummeted to 11.5%. But in the EU it still 18.4% on average. Italy comes in at 16.5%, Lithuania is 18.4%, Latvia is 22.1%, and Turkey has one of the highest rates at 27.3%.

I can see why health-concerned citizens in all these countries want to decrease smoking. They may want to protect smokers, and also to just enjoy cleaner air. So a law banning smoking in cars was probably an easy sell. But it doesn’t appear to be working: Turkey passed its ban in 2013 and still has one of the highest rates of daily smokers in the world.

And is the air cleaner? None of these countries have banned combustion cars. So if they are struggling with smokey roads, cigarettes are the least of their problems.

What about getting extended secondhand smoke exposure from a car next to you? You’d have to be stuck in standstill traffic. For hours. In a tunnel. This argument is dubious at best.

Other countries considering all-out smoking bans in private cars make additional arguments. A southern France fire department claims 16% of bushfires are caused by cigarettes tossed from vehicles. Another 13.8% are caused by cigarettes tossed by pedestrians.

Here in the U.S. we suffer from some of the worst wildfires in the world. So during high fire season, the US Forest Service prohibits walking through national parks with a cigarette in your hand. They actually have the opposite approach: You can only smoke in your campsite or in your vehicle. The logic is that vehicles have ashtrays, so you’re less likely to toss your butts.

Other countries have said smoking a cigarette can be a form of distracted driving. But like air pollution, I would argue that there are much worse forms of distracted driving to address first. Texting while driving continues to rise, and so does the incidence of fatal accidents caused by it. In-car infotainment screens keep growing, and automakers continue to migrate vehicle functions to confusing menus. Habitual cigarette smokers, on the other hand, could probably light up while blindfolded.

I am not a smoker. And I love my cars too much to let anyone else smoke in them. I agree with bans on smoking with minors or pregnant women in your car. But I don’t see a legitimate reason to ban any smoking in your car. Such laws are an easy sell because the majority of folks–who aren’t daily smokers–will approve of them. But it’s an example of the majority oppressing a minority who isn’t doing anyone any real harm.

Next, find out which eight states allow your passengers to drink while you drive.